OLA in the News: Do Renters Need Insurance?

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zerg
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Re: OLA in the News: Do Renters Need Insurance?

#16 Unread post by zerg » August 18th, 2011, 2:08 pm

furtado_4real wrote:
Openborders wrote:Poorly written article and bizarre manipulative posts here.

Reality is tenants don't need contents insurance to be compensated in case of fires and other events. Under the Residential Tenancies Act, if the fire isn't the renter's fault, the landlord will be responsible for providing compensation for lost contents.

Sorry for destroying the "truthiness" that goes on in this forum.
Here is just one from google. You have no idea what you are talking about.

http://www.myinsuranceshopper.ca/TenantInsurance.aspx
Great info... too bad it will be spun as insurance company/landlord conspiracy/propaganda. :roll:
Or someone is going to come in and say if you don't have possessions it's not worth having.

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Re: OLA in the News: Do Renters Need Insurance?

#17 Unread post by Saynotoslumlords » August 18th, 2011, 2:27 pm

zerg wrote:
Openborders wrote:The act stipulates that landlords are responsible for ensuring residences are in "a good state of repair and fit for habitation and for complying with health, safety, housing and maintenance standards."

If a landlord is found to have violated that stipulation (which always is the reality unless the tenant is an arsonist :lol: ), and a tenant's belongings are damaged as a result, the landlord is required to compensate the tenant.

Cut through the truthiness and feel good 'kumbiya' groupthink of landlords patting themselves on each others backs and kissing each others behinds here, reality sets in.
What if a neighboring tenant has a grease fire and the fire damages a neighbor's property? This is not the LLs fault, the tenant is not an arsonist. It was an accident which caused damage.

If you had no contents insurance you'd be screwed.

Similarly, if your apt is burglarized, this is not the landlords fault either, as in the article's example.

Sorry to cut through your delusion.
Ignore ol' zergie. He's the least informed person here.

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Re: OLA in the News: Do Renters Need Insurance?

#18 Unread post by parker2 » August 18th, 2011, 4:01 pm

OLA wrote: Premiums are typically based on the value of the contents, and can range from $100 to $500 per year. Luxury items like jewellery can cost more to insure.
this is far more than many tenants struggling to survive can afford.

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Re: OLA in the News: Do Renters Need Insurance?

#19 Unread post by furtado_4real » August 18th, 2011, 4:28 pm

parker2 wrote:
OLA wrote: Premiums are typically based on the value of the contents, and can range from $100 to $500 per year. Luxury items like jewellery can cost more to insure.
this is far more than many tenants struggling to survive can afford.
How much will it cost to replace all of their clothes, beds, sofas and other furniture, tv and stereo and other electronics, the food in their fridge and freezer, their shoes, their kids toys...this list could go on and on and on and on.
How about a real simple calculation for even the cheapest, most frivolous single guy:
5 pairs of cheap pants @ $20 = $100
5 cheap shirts @$20 = $100
2 pairs of shoes @ $50 = $100
socks and underwear = $40
Jewelry (watch etc) =$100
Prescription eye glasses = $100
Hair and body products =$50
Bed = $300
other bedroom furniture = $200
TV = $200
Games=$200
Apart furniture=$500 (couches etc)
Kitchen (forks, plates etc) $100
Food in fridge = $50
(even for this guy there is probably 20 items I am missing ranging from costs of $5-$500) but I am keeping this non-biased.

Now I cannot even imagine someone only owning the items in the list above, not to even mention their exterme low cost, but as I said, I am trying to keep this non-biased. Even with that said there is over $2000 worth of stuff there. Now let's be honest, most would find that list of stuff and its cost VERY LOW and call it garbage that should be thrown out at the dump, but again, keeping this non-biased. This list is for one extremely cheap single guy. So tell me how he will re-purchase all of this?

Like your personal belongings, your landlord's property insurance will not cover any upgrades you have made to your rental—such as better carpets, high-end light fixtures or built-in cupboards. Who will pay for all of that Parker?

Now what if you find yourself in trouble if your party guests get out of hand and cause damage? Get sued, then what? Get chased for the money by courts and such for the rest of your life to pay it back?


What if he is the cause and there is damage to other tenant's stuff or to their physical person? Get sued, then what? Get chased for the money by courts and such for the rest of your life to pay it back?

What about re-location? Where will he live? With insurance they cover the cost.

Here is something from the TD website - look it up yourself.

The pizza delivery person is knocking at your door. You open the door and let him in the hall while you go grab your wallet. As he enters, he slips on your door mat, falls flat on his back and bumps his head. He saves the pizza though, so everything is fine, right?

Wrong!

Now he can't work because of a back injury and is taking you to court! What do you do?


Liability
Now there is a pretty good reason to have tenants insurance. You're liable for anything that happens in your apartment. If your landlord doesn't salt the walkway in the winter, that is his negligence, but if you have unsafe conditions in your own living area, you are responsible if someone hurts himself/herself. If the injury is serious enough, you could end up paying damages in court.


Anyone cannot afford to NOT have insurance. You buy it instead of smokes or alcohol. You buy it instead of going to the movies, you by it instead of (insert a want, not a need here).

I pay somewhere around $600 a month in insurance costs (houses, rentals, cars, motorcycle and other various things) I would LOVE to spend it on other stuff, but to not have it would be one of the stupidest moves I could make in my life.

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Re: OLA in the News: Do Renters Need Insurance?

#20 Unread post by c0ntra » August 18th, 2011, 6:03 pm

former advertiser wrote:I suggest we let them find out the hard way, that what we are saying here is true.

We don't need to justify this any further.

Former advertiser

Agreed. Even the dreaded Toronto Star agrees with you. As much as I hate the star, they've tried to educate tenants through at least 3 articles this year alone, describing recent incidents where tenants were left high and dry thinking the RTA protected their belongings.
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